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"entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/wyndo/", "claim": "Wyndo recommends trying open-weight models if a user keeps hitting usage limits on Claude or ChatGPT, or wants to lower the cost of certain tasks, since some work may run well on an open-weight model while saving the subscription for tasks where…", "date": "2026-09-13", "url": "https://aimaker.substack.com/p/claude-code-free-openrouter", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Ren", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/ren/", "claim": "What actually fell is cost per completed job rather than cost per token: against Sol, Astra finishes Terminal-Bench 4.0 tasks at roughly 9% lower estimated API cost per task and OSWorld 2.0 tasks in about 47% less time, so the relevant demand…", "date": "2026-09-15", "url": "https://renstocks.substack.com/p/openai-astra-has-agi-arrived", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "David George", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/david-george/", "claim": "They judge the switching-cost lever basically 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"entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/steve-eisman/", "claim": "OpenAI's price cut on its GPT model, combined with a reported tenfold jump in usage, looks like the beginning of a price war in AI services.", "date": "2026-09-11", "url": "https://realeismanplaybook.substack.com/p/ai-terminator-fears-grow-and-rates", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Steve Eisman", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/steve-eisman/", "claim": "Steve says the AI story probably continues as long as token growth keeps rising, and identifies a price war between Anthropic, OpenAI and the Chinese models as the main risk that could change it.", "date": "2026-09-28", "url": "https://realeismanplaybook.substack.com/p/what-the-ai-boom-looks-like-from", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Le Shrub", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/le-shrub/", "claim": "China is gaining ground in AI, with Chinese models now accounting for 66% of token share.", "date": "2026-09-22", "url": "https://www.shrubstack.com/p/uncomfortable-truths", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Massif Capital", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/massif-capital/", "claim": "Under 2% of tokens to a majority.", "date": null, "url": null, "access": "public" }, { "name": "Kevin Gee", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/kevin-gee/", "claim": "China is releasing open frontier models not despite state involvement, but because an open frontier is how you seed an ecosystem, win the developer base, and move the world's default tech stack onto a Chinese one, motivated by technological…", "date": "2026-09-12", "url": null, "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Deborah Folloni", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/deborah-folloni/", "claim": "100,000 leads: $7 against $3,000.", "date": null, "url": null, "access": "public" }, { "name": "Charlie Hills", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/charlie-hills/", "claim": "Opus 5.5 is 60% cheaper than Astra, at $4 versus $10 per million input tokens.", "date": "2026-09-27", "url": "https://charliehills.substack.com/p/claude-code-motion-graphics", "access": "public" }, { "name": "David George", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/david-george/", "claim": "So far, neither compute nor model advancements have been a zero-sum game: better, cheaper intelligence is accruing value to the entire ecosystem, with both older chips and models retaining substantial value well past the expiration dates the bears…", "date": "2026-09-30", "url": "https://www.a16z.news/p/state-of-markets-ii", "access": "public" } ], "against": null }, { "id": "the-filing-sets-the-price", "label": "The filing sets the price", "voices": [ { "name": "Mia Silverio", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/mia-silverio/", "claim": "Anthropic's expected ~$2 trillion IPO valuation is not justified by its numbers, given that it would need $1.2 trillion in annual revenue within 10 years (per Aswath Damodaran) to justify that valuation while the entire current AI products 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"Warden Capital", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/warden-capital/", "claim": "Warden Capital argues the AI investment cycle cannot earn a reasonable return absent AGI within a few years: at roughly $700 billion per year of investment, model providers would need about $1 trillion in annual end AI revenue by 2029, ramping…", "date": "2026-07-22", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/warden-capital-q2-2026-fscl_document_8ABS2CYK873", "access": "public" }, { "name": "First Pacific Advisors", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/first-pacific-advisors/", "claim": "Global AI spending is projected to reach 2.59 trillion dollars in 2026, and to achieve even a relatively low unlevered return on investment would require 207 billion dollars in after-tax income per year starting immediately, which the portfolio…", "date": "2026-07-30", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/first-pacific-advisors-lp-q2-2026-fscl_document_9KDV3DNH810", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Daniel Romero", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/daniel-romero/", "claim": "Although SpaceX reports AI infrastructure payback periods of less than one year, maintaining a one-year payback across the entire hypothetical 2027 buildout would require $1.9-2.28 trillion in annual compute payments, and if AI labs footed that…", "date": "2026-09-21", "url": "https://hypertechinvest.com/p/the-math-behind-the-next-ai-rally", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Daniel Romero", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/daniel-romero/", "claim": "OpenAI's combined annualized revenue with Anthropic reached $105 billion (OpenAI $40 billion, Anthropic $65 billion) in July 2026, which is nowhere near the figure needed to support the modeled 2027 buildout, and this understates the true gap since…", "date": "2026-09-21", "url": "https://hypertechinvest.com/p/the-math-behind-the-next-ai-rally", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Steve Eisman", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/steve-eisman/", "claim": "Anthropic looks 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Chinese open-weight models are taking serious market share from incumbents like OpenAI and Anthropic, because the Chinese labs are only a few months behind the frontier and shortening release gaps mean even…", "date": "2026-09-11", "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/ai-insights-is-ai-adoption-slowing-down-ai-risk-debate", "access": "public" }, { "name": "David George", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/david-george/", "claim": "Cheaper intelligence lifts all; at the model layer no edge sticks.", "date": null, "url": "https://www.a16z.news/p/openai-understands-something-important", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Steve Eisman", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/steve-eisman/", "claim": "Oracle's remaining performance obligations of $664 billion are concerning because roughly 50% come from OpenAI, a company burning massive cash, making Oracle over-reliant on OpenAI's solvency.", "date": "2026-09-11", "url": "https://realeismanplaybook.substack.com/p/ai-terminator-fears-grow-and-rates", "access": "paid" }, { "name": "Tae Kim", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/tae-kim/", "claim": "$70B of ARR at OpenAI; Huang's 80% of AI-native startups on open models.", "date": null, "url": "https://taekim.substack.com/p/openais-undeniable-resurgence-and", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Le Shrub", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/le-shrub/", "claim": "Chinese models at 66% of tokens; Karp's never-IPO call on OpenAI.", "date": null, "url": "https://www.shrubstack.com/p/uncomfortable-truths", "access": "public" }, { "name": "Oguz Erkan", "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/oguz-erkan/", "claim": "The dollars with two labs, the volume leaving, fragmentation in 3-5 years.", "date": null, "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/booking-holdings-deep-dive-an-attractive", "access": "public" } ], "against": null } ], "crossings": [ { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Tae Kim", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Spencer contradicts Tae Kim on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Le Shrub", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Spencer contradicts Le Shrub on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Wyndo", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "condition", "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies Wyndo on condition." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Oguz Erkan", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies Oguz Erkan on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Le Shrub", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "premise", "note": "Michael Spencer contradicts Le Shrub on premise." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Tae Kim", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies Tae Kim on evidence." }, { "from": "David George", "to": "Michael Spencer", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "mechanism", "note": "David George qualifies Michael Spencer on mechanism." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Tae Kim", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "condition", "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies Tae Kim on condition." }, { "from": "David George", "to": "Steve Eisman", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "mechanism", "note": "David George qualifies Steve Eisman on mechanism." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "Wyndo", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Spencer contradicts Wyndo on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "David George", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "mechanism", "note": "Michael Spencer contradicts David George on mechanism." }, { "from": "Kevin Gee", "to": "David George", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "mechanism", "note": "Kevin Gee contradicts David George on mechanism." }, { "from": "Tae Kim", "to": "Michael Spencer", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "premise", "note": "Tae Kim contradicts Michael Spencer on premise." }, { "from": "Michael Spencer", "to": "David George", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "mechanism", "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies David George on mechanism." }, { "from": "Gaetano", "to": "Oguz Erkan", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "condition", "note": "Gaetano qualifies Oguz Erkan on condition." }, { "from": "David George", "to": "Michael Spencer", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "condition", "note": "David George qualifies Michael Spencer on condition." }, { "from": "Daniel Romero", "to": "Market Sentiment", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Daniel Romero contradicts Market Sentiment on evidence." }, { "from": "Longriver", "to": "Warden Capital", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Longriver contradicts Warden Capital on evidence." }, { "from": "Longriver", "to": "First Pacific Advisors", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Longriver contradicts First Pacific Advisors on evidence." }, { "from": "Longriver", "to": "Distillate Capital Partners LLC", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Longriver contradicts Distillate Capital Partners LLC on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Burry", "to": "Daniel Romero", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Burry qualifies Daniel Romero on evidence." }, { "from": "Michael Burry", "to": "Market Sentiment", "relation": "contradicts", "dimension": "evidence", "note": "Michael Burry contradicts Market Sentiment on evidence." }, { "from": "Gaetano", "to": "Mia Silverio", "relation": "qualifies", "dimension": "condition", "note": "Gaetano qualifies Mia Silverio on condition." } ], "notes": [ { "label": "The thread", "text": "Part 5 split the two labs into two businesses. Part 12 asks whether the model they sell still commands a price, and finds the writers agreeing on the volume leaving the frontier and splitting on the dollars." } ], "tests": [ { "id": "p12-t01", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "October 28", "whenLabel": "Oct 28, 2026", "date": "2026-10-28", "precision": "day", "event": "Alphabet and Microsoft report, and the Fed decides the same day: whether the TPU system sales inside Google Cloud's backlog get a size, and whether Cloud growth holds near the second quarter's 82% without them.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "no", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-10T17:40:22Z", "callProbability": 20, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-11T19:37:45Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "story", "ref": "watchlist[0].date", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "earnings", "symbol": "GOOGL", "rule": "The answer is yes if the release, the 10-Q or the call transcript gives a dollar amount, or a share of the Cloud backlog, for TPU system sales contracts or for the Anthropic contracts; no if the quarter is reported with no such figure. Google Cloud's growth rate is read alongside (the Part watches whether it holds near the second quarter's 82% without those contracts) but does not decide the test.", "question": "Did Alphabet, in its third-quarter 2026 results of October 28, 2026 (the earnings release, the 10-Q or the call), state a size for the TPU system sales contracts inside Google Cloud's backlog?", "source": { "label": "Alphabet Q3 2026 earnings release, call transcript and Form 10-Q (SEC EDGAR, CIK 1652044)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001652044&type=10-Q" }, "ambiguity": "A size given only as a range wider than two to one, or given for a period other than the backlog at quarter end, is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing. A report delayed past November 15, 2026 is inconclusive.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 2, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-09", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "version": 2, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "Vocabulary pass of 12 October 2026: the rule says what makes the answer yes and what makes it no, and DeepStack's reading replaces the owner's.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "no" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t01", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, { "id": "p12-t02", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "October 29", "whenLabel": "Oct 29, 2026", "date": "2026-10-29", "precision": "day", "event": "Amazon reports: it does not break Anthropic out, so the test is what AWS discloses about its largest customers, against Silverio's October 5 count of 47% of Anthropic's sales through Amazon and Google.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "no", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-10T17:40:22Z", "callProbability": 15, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-11T19:37:45Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "story", "ref": "watchlist[1].date", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "earnings", "symbol": "AMZN", "rule": "The answer is yes if the concentration note of the 10-Q, the release or the call names a customer or a group of customers at 10% or more of AWS revenue, or states Anthropic's share of AWS sales; no if the quarter is reported with no such disclosure. The figure is read against Silverio's October 5 count of 47% of Anthropic's sales running through Amazon and Google.", "question": "Did Amazon, in its third-quarter 2026 results of October 29, 2026 (the earnings release, the 10-Q or the call), disclose a customer or a group of customers at 10% or more of AWS revenue, or quantify Anthropic's share of AWS sales?", "source": { "label": "Amazon Q3 2026 earnings release, call transcript and Form 10-Q (SEC EDGAR, CIK 1018724)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001018724&type=10-Q" }, "ambiguity": "A concentration disclosure given only for Amazon as a whole, without an AWS figure, is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing. A report delayed past November 15, 2026 is inconclusive.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 2, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-09", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "version": 2, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "Vocabulary pass of 12 October 2026: the rule says what makes the answer yes and what makes it no, and DeepStack's reading replaces the owner's.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "no" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t02", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, { "id": "p12-t03", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "October 31", "whenLabel": "Oct 31, 2026", "date": "2026-10-31", "precision": "day", "event": "Anthropic's listing, Part 10's test as the Docket states it: a registration statement with audited revenue, net loss and customer concentration public on EDGAR, or shares trading; a confidential draft without an EDGAR filing is inconclusive.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": "p10-t02", "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "either", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-10T17:40:22Z", "callProbability": null, "callProbabilityAt": null, "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "story", "ref": "watchlist[2].date", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "manual", "rule": "The answer is yes if a registration statement for Anthropic carrying audited revenue, net loss and customer-concentration disclosures is public on EDGAR by October 31, 2026, or its shares begin trading by that date; no otherwise. The audited figures against the $400 billion run-rate line Romero named for the end of 2027, and the two-customer share Silverio cited, are DeepStack's reading into the Result.", "question": "Did Anthropic file a registration statement (Form S-1 or equivalent) with audited financial statements on SEC EDGAR, or begin trading, by October 31, 2026?", "source": { "label": "SEC EDGAR, Anthropic filings", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&company=anthropic&type=S-1" }, "ambiguity": "A confidential draft filing reported in the press but not public on EDGAR, or a filing without audited statements, is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 2, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-09", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "version": 2, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "Vocabulary pass of 12 October 2026: the rule says what makes the answer yes and what makes it no, and DeepStack's reading replaces the owner's.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "either" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t03", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, { "id": "p12-t04", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "November 18", "whenLabel": "Nov 18, 2026", "date": "2026-11-18", "precision": "day", "event": "Nvidia reports: whether it names the labs among its largest customers, against Eisman's September 21 count of roughly 70% of the hyperscalers' AI revenue from the two.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "no", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-10T17:40:22Z", "callProbability": 15, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-11T19:37:45Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "story", "ref": "watchlist[3].date", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "earnings", "symbol": "NVDA", "rule": "The answer is yes if the concentration note of the 10-Q, the release or the call names either lab as a direct or indirect customer at 10% or more of revenue, or states a share of revenue for the two labs together; no if the customers at 10% or more are described without naming either lab and no share for the labs is given. The figure is read against Eisman's September 21 count of roughly 70% of the hyperscalers' AI revenue coming from the two labs.", "question": "Did Nvidia, in its third-quarter fiscal 2027 results of November 18, 2026 (the earnings release, the 10-Q or the call), name OpenAI or Anthropic as a customer at 10% or more of revenue, or state the two labs' share of its revenue?", "source": { "label": "Nvidia Q3 FY2027 earnings release, call transcript and Form 10-Q (SEC EDGAR, CIK 1045810)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001045810&type=10-Q" }, "ambiguity": "A disclosure that names a lab only as an indirect end customer without a share is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing. A report delayed past December 15, 2026 is inconclusive.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 2, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-09", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "version": 2, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "Vocabulary pass of 12 October 2026: the rule says what makes the answer yes and what makes it no, and DeepStack's reading replaces the owner's.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "no" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t04", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, { "id": "p12-t05", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "When it files", "whenLabel": "When it files", "date": null, "precision": "signal", "event": "The prospectus: whether the gross margin clears half of revenue, and revenue tied to investors against Distillate's July 15 count of $180 billion committed and $1.1 trillion pledged back.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "yes", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-12T18:16:56Z", "callProbability": 60, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-12T18:16:56Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "label", "ref": "When it files", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "manual", "rule": "Gross margin is revenue less cost of revenue, divided by revenue, from the lines of the statement of operations in the first Form S-1 Anthropic makes public, for the latest period it presents (a 2026 year-to-date period when the filing carries one, else the latest fiscal year). The answer is yes if it is 50.0% or more; no if it is below 50.0%. A margin the filing gives for inference alone, or before payments to cloud partners, is read alongside and does not decide the test; later amendments do not reopen it.", "question": "Does the first registration statement Anthropic makes public on SEC EDGAR (Form S-1) show a gross margin of 50% or more for the latest period in its statement of operations?", "source": { "label": "SEC EDGAR, Anthropic filings (Form S-1 and its amendments)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&company=anthropic&type=S-1" }, "ambiguity": "If no registration statement for Anthropic is public on EDGAR by March 31, 2027, the test is inconclusive: the Result names the EDGAR search read that day and the missing filing, and the question moves to the first registration statement or annual report Anthropic files, read by June 30, 2027. If the statement of operations carries no cost of revenue line, the gross margin the filing states for the same period decides; if it states none, the test is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 1, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "yes" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t05", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, { "id": "p12-t06", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "When it files", "whenLabel": "When it files", "date": null, "precision": "signal", "event": "The prospectus's customer note: whether the customers at a tenth of sales or more add up to a fifth of revenue, against Silverio's October 5 count of a quarter from two customers.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "yes", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-12T18:16:57Z", "callProbability": 70, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-12T18:16:57Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "label", "ref": "When it files", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "manual", "rule": "Add the shares of revenue the filing gives, in its notes or its risk factors, for each customer at 10% or more of revenue in the latest fiscal year presented. The answer is yes if the sum is 20.0% or more; no if it is below 20.0%, including when the filing states that no customer reached 10% of revenue. A cloud provider that resells the models counts as a customer when the filing counts it as one; later amendments do not reopen the test.", "question": "Does the first registration statement Anthropic makes public on SEC EDGAR (Form S-1) report customers at 10% or more of revenue that together account for 20% or more of revenue in the latest fiscal year it presents?", "source": { "label": "SEC EDGAR, Anthropic filings (Form S-1 and its amendments)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&company=anthropic&type=S-1" }, "ambiguity": "If no registration statement for Anthropic is public on EDGAR by March 31, 2027, the test is inconclusive: the Result names the EDGAR search read that day and the missing filing, and the question moves to the first registration statement or annual report Anthropic files, read by June 30, 2027. A filing that names customers at 10% or more without their shares is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 1, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "yes" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t06", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null } ], "results": [], "sources": [ { "label": "AI Supremacy - Gemini-4 Argon and the OpenRouter token count", "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/ai-frontier-google-gemini-4-argon" }, { "label": "Longriver Investment Partners - Q2 2026 letter", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/longriver-investment-partners-limited-q2-2026-fscl_document_8HDF9YVG683" }, { "label": "Prof G Markets - Anthropic wants $2 trillion anyway", "url": "https://www.profgmedia.com/p/americans-are-turning-on-ai-anthropic" }, { "label": "Distillate Capital Partners - Q2 2026 letter", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/distillate-capital-partners-llc-q2-2026-fscl_document_3BZX2NEX647" }, { "label": "Capitalist Letters - Booking Holdings deep dive, the token dollars", "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/booking-holdings-deep-dive-an-attractive" }, { "label": "a16z - OpenAI understands something important and rare", "url": "https://www.a16z.news/p/openai-understands-something-important" }, { "label": "AI Supremacy - The era of personal super-intelligent agents", "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/the-era-of-personal-super-intelligent-agents-muse-2026" }, { "label": "Apollo - Chinese models vs. frontier models", "url": "https://www.apollo.com/insights-news/insights/daily-spark/chinese-models-vs-frontier-models" }, { "label": "Shrubstack - Uncomfortable truths", "url": "https://www.shrubstack.com/p/uncomfortable-truths" }, { "label": "Potential Multibaggers - Vercel's open-model count", "url": "https://www.potentialmultibaggers.com/p/and-another-new-pick" }, { "label": "a16z - State of Markets II", "url": "https://www.a16z.news/p/state-of-markets-ii" }, { "label": "First Pacific Advisors - Q2 2026 letter", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/first-pacific-advisors-lp-q2-2026-fscl_document_9KDV3DNH810" }, { "label": "Warden Capital - Q2 2026 letter", "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/warden-capital-q2-2026-fscl_document_8ABS2CYK873" }, { "label": "Market Sentiment - The next great AI trade is everything that isn't AI", "url": "https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/the-next-great-ai-trade-is-everything" }, { "label": "HyperTech Invest - The math behind the next AI rally", "url": "https://hypertechinvest.com/p/the-math-behind-the-next-ai-rally" }, { "label": "AI Supremacy - A guide to Grok Bot 2026, the listing delay", "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/a-guide-to-grok-bot-2026-autonomous-teammate-systems" } ] } ], "nextTest": { "id": "p12-t01", "part": 12, "slug": "the-model-is-not-the-price", "when": "October 28", "whenLabel": "Oct 28, 2026", "date": "2026-10-28", "precision": "day", "event": "Alphabet and Microsoft report, and the Fed decides the same day: whether the TPU system sales inside Google Cloud's backlog get a size, and whether Cloud growth holds near the second quarter's 82% without them.", "status": "pending", "resultId": null, "sameAs": null, "stage": "pre", "callExpects": "no", "callExpectsBy": "Marco Cauduro", "callExpectsAt": "2026-10-10T17:40:22Z", "callProbability": 20, "callProbabilityAt": "2026-10-11T19:37:45Z", "callProbabilityHistory": [], "source": { "kind": "story", "ref": "watchlist[0].date", "url": null }, "resolver": { "kind": "earnings", "symbol": "GOOGL", "rule": "The answer is yes if the release, the 10-Q or the call transcript gives a dollar amount, or a share of the Cloud backlog, for TPU system sales contracts or for the Anthropic contracts; no if the quarter is reported with no such figure. Google Cloud's growth rate is read alongside (the Part watches whether it holds near the second quarter's 82% without those contracts) but does not decide the test.", "question": "Did Alphabet, in its third-quarter 2026 results of October 28, 2026 (the earnings release, the 10-Q or the call), state a size for the TPU system sales contracts inside Google Cloud's backlog?", "source": { "label": "Alphabet Q3 2026 earnings release, call transcript and Form 10-Q (SEC EDGAR, CIK 1652044)", "url": "https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001652044&type=10-Q" }, "ambiguity": "A size given only as a range wider than two to one, or given for a period other than the backlog at quarter end, is inconclusive, and the Result says what was read and what was missing. A report delayed past November 15, 2026 is inconclusive.", "specState": "approved", "specVersion": 2, "specUpdatedOn": "2026-10-12", "specHistory": [ { "version": 1, "date": "2026-10-09", "reason": "First specification.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "version": 2, "date": "2026-10-12", "reason": "Vocabulary pass of 12 October 2026: the rule says what makes the answer yes and what makes it no, and DeepStack's reading replaces the owner's.", "by": "Marco Cauduro" } ], "callExpects": "no" }, "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t01", "storyUrl": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#watch", "resultUrl": null }, "relations": { "mechanism": "The token is cheap and getting cheaper. The gap between the Chinese open models and the frontier is about four months by Torsten Slok's reading of Epoch, a majority of tokens on the platforms that count them had moved to open or Chinese models by September, and Anthropic's Opus 5.5 lists at $4 per million input tokens against OpenAI's $10, a 60 percent undercut. What still commands a price is the lab: the completed job, the distribution, the dollars that have not yet followed the volume. But no audited figure for that price is on EDGAR; $50 billion, $65 billion and $70 billion are three run-rate readings on three dates, and only a registration statement puts them on one line. The Call expects the filing to show a lab that is paid, in part by its investors.", "alternatives": [ "The labs' price shows in the capex they pull: $1.2 trillion or more of AI capex next year should drive about $2 trillion of incremental revenue, with no prospectus needed (the case Market Sentiment makes).", "The frontier is still paid, and paid more each year: Anthropic's run-rate went from $1 billion at the end of 2024 to $9 billion a year later and almost $50 billion by May 2026 (the case Longriver makes).", "No one commands a price, the lab included: OpenAI's price cut with a tenfold jump in usage looks like the start of a price war between Anthropic, OpenAI and the Chinese models (the case Steve Eisman makes).", "One lab commands the price and the other does not: Anthropic is far ahead of OpenAI in model quality and ARR before its IPO, and the lead should widen with the proceeds (the case Michael Spencer makes)." ], "checks": { "p12-t01": "the TPU-backlog claim", "p12-t02": "the customer-concentration claim", "p12-t03": "the audited-revenue claim", "p12-t04": "the lab-as-customer claim", "p12-t05": "the inference-margin claim" }, "approvedBy": "Marco Cauduro", "approvedAt": "2026-10-10T22:58:16.892Z" }, "method": "How DeepStack settles a question", "timeline": [ { "part": 12, "date": "2026-10-09", "kind": "published", "text": "Part 12 published; the Call: The price has left the model.", "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/", "by": null }, { "part": 12, "date": "2026-10-10", "kind": "call", "text": "The Call: The price has left the model. A frontier model no longer commands a price per token for long. The lab still does, and only a prospectus says what that price is worth. Our Call takes the side “The filing sets the price”.", "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-model-is-not-the-price/#call-history", "by": "Marco Cauduro" }, { "part": 12, "date": "2026-10-28", "kind": "next", "text": "Next: Oct 28, 2026, Alphabet and Microsoft report, and the Fed decides the same day: whether the TPU system sales inside Google Cloud's backlog get a size, and whether Cloud growth holds near the second quarter's 82% without them.", "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/docket/#test-p12-t01", "by": null } ] }